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Euro + Asian posted: 20 Jun at 1:24 pm
Thank you for using logic.
Boris posted: 21 Jun at 11:08 pm
A bad summer camp experience, perhaps?
Eyota Xin posted: 22 Jun at 2:11 am
Not really synonomous with a being of love is it? hehehe
Warrior of Ceiling Cat posted: 25 Jun at 11:00 am
True, if he was all-knowing he would have known who he would **** enough to send them to hell before creating them, so if he was loving he simply wouldn’t create people that he hates enough to torture.
Frizby posted: 28 Jun at 8:41 pm
The same way you would want a wicked person judged differently to a kind person..
John P posted: 30 Jun at 3:14 am
I don’t know. You can ask God at judgement.
Jeanmarie posted: 02 Jul at 9:02 am
God created a place where his own presence was not felt. Satan choose to separate himself from God by sinning against him. So he created a place for him and his followers.
Humans also have this free will to choose God or not. He won’t force people to go to heaven if they really don’t want to go.
Hell is only torture because God’s presence is not felt.
mitch t posted: 03 Jul at 8:24 am
Why would someone who knows their eternal fate choose not to change it? If you don’t want God He won’t force himself on you.
If lost sinners received the same benefits as saved people we would have no reason to serve him. I know what He has done and what He will do for me. For that I love and follow Him.
Nothing you or anyone else says will change my mind. Laugh, mock, and giggle all you want.
Ashley posted: 05 Jul at 4:40 pm
“Our forgiving father” how can he be forgiving if he damns us all to hell if we do not belive in his presence, why because we were brought up in to a family tht never taught us the ways of god, because we were brought up into different religions with similar consequences, Christianity is not the oldest religion so who saids they are right and the oldest religions such as tht of ancient egypt are wrong, Religion is something a gorup of people make to make people fear them through the power of a being in which people worship but never see, only in paintings, much like orwellian novels like 1984, how the people follow a man called “big brother” who isnt even real but they have been out into a state of fear because they are terminated if they do not foloow him.
brattiness73 posted: 08 Jul at 11:08 am
I get tickled by the assumption that a God would actually be a “loving” being. The bible, which I assume is where this train of thought came from doesn’t even make that claim. The bible in fact paints God as being a bit of an egomaniac (needing to be worshiped), jealous, angry, vengeful…pretty much all the human “failings”. I would go more for the theory that a God is most likely indifferent. It would make a lot more sense.
Me posted: 09 Jul at 12:31 pm
Hell is not going to destroy the body. Those who go to hell will not have physical bodies. They will be spirit.
The smell of burning sulfur is what will be the aroma. A never ending burning of sulfur.
Hell is nothing more than the absence of God and his love.
If hell were a burning pit meant to eliminate the physical aspects, why is it that satan is still around? Isn’t this proof that hell does not burn what is physical and that the soul is not damaged by fire?
Love is what is missing from hell, and the bible says God is love.
grayure posted: 11 Jul at 1:56 am
I can think of two ways of looking at this:
1. God is not loving or is responsible for all evil as well as all good. Some faiths do see God in this way, for instance Islam.
2. The pit of fire is a metaphor. I think this works better because it might represent entropy and purification.
Hell has to be something you do to yourself.
Tiffany K posted: 12 Jul at 12:31 am
Thanks for making my day. An eternal pit of jello? Sign me up. lol.
Peter posted: 14 Jul at 10:13 am
Trying to understand the complicated workings of god is like a child wondering how a nuclear reactor works. Clearly the child isnt going to get it right. But if i had to guess at it i would say that God created heaven and Hell because we have free choice unlike any other creature we can make any decision we see fit. His angels didnt have a choice to be there but who ever made it to heaven actually did it by there own free will because they choose to live a decent life. Hell will weed out the ones who have no desire to be with their creator.
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Innocent Victim posted: 17 Jul at 4:14 pm
Are you trying to make sense of christian myth? You waste your time, friend.
hoytsparks2000 posted: 19 Jul at 8:02 pm
Kind sir, your writings reveal that you are of the humanist free-will belief. GOD did not create this world and then turn it over to humans. HE has been/still is/and will always be in full control of all things at all times. HE created the devil. HE will not create a burning inferno,,,, a burning inferno is existing now. GOD is love to only HIS chosen children; the remainder of humans HE blinded their eyes in order for them to NOT recognize the truth as it is in Christ.Joh 12:40 He hath blinded their eyes, and hardened their heart; that they should not see with their eyes, nor understand with their heart, and be converted, and I should heal them. Ro 11:7 What then? Israel hath not obtained that which he seeketh for; but the election hath obtained it, and the rest were blinded. Isaiah 45:7 I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I the LORD do all these things.
These things do not happen because a person chose the wrong religion; all things come to pass at the predestinated will of GOD.
God bless, Hoyt D. F. Sparks, SL
wise czar’s soul posted: 22 Jul at 9:48 am
Meanwhile, the bible seems to suggest no divine endorsement of the idea of hell:
KJV, OT, book of Jeremiah, chapter 7:
30 For the children of Judah have done evil in my sight, saith the LORD: they have set their abominations in the house which is called by my name, to pollute it.
31 And they have built the high places of Tophet, which is in the valley of the son of Hinnom, to burn their sons and their daughters in the fire; which I commanded them not, neither came it into my heart.
While Yahweh is not saith-ing about hell, specifically, in this instance, it gives the impression that he would not even THINK about such a thing. [Er, think in his heart, obviously, where all great thoughts are thunk.]
This seems a case of “Do as I say, not as I do”. God is nothing if not consistent.
Tim O’Connor posted: 24 Jul at 2:17 am
We are all destined to be fully and equally – happy and enriched… Those who remain stubborn to God will only spend a temporary period paying for their unforgiven sin in hell – after which all creatures are saved and become equally loved and equally loving. Ultimately, overall, it’s all for the best – each one’s sufferings bring them their best possible future!
God is saying to everyone ‘Let Me entertain you!’ – God will make us fully thankful for all our experiences.
Iyehuweh God (Yahuweh/Yahweh), our glorious Entertainer, is crazy but not mad, chaotic but not unstable. He makes us to sin which makes Him sad, so that He can demonstrate His love for us by suffering for us, in such a way that it makes us righteous – so that we then make Him even happier than before we sinned and cause Him no further sadness. God will eventually save all of us from sin and suffering and share His happiest experience of eternity with everyone…
God is fair… Overall, in each person’s entire infinite history, we will each experience the same mount of happiness and unhappiness that God experiences in His entire infinite history. We each experience the same amount of unhappiness – whether through our compassion and self-sacrifice, or through our being disciplined because of our unforgiveness and stubbornness to trust ourselves to God. But, while we are still sinners we are forfeiting lots of the happiness that God’s saints are sharing in – to help them in their temporary sufferings – and those who are stubborn enough to be punished in hell lose even more temporary happiness while they pay for their sins there…
God reconciles all to Himself through Jesus Christ, Who makes peace through His shed blood and crucifixion (Col 1:20). Jesus is the Lamb of God Who takes away all the sins of all the world (Jn 1:29). The creation itself, also, shall be freed from the slavery of corruption into the glorious freedom of the children of God (Rom 8:21).
Hell’s punishment is not forever but until the end of the eons – eonian punishment. People don’t sin enough during their mortal lives for God to choose endless punishment besides it would spoil the future of eternity to have a section continually reserved for endless torture…
People are made by God to rebel against His ideal will for them and then offered a choice – forgiveness of their rebellion, or, punishment for their sins until they have paid the last ‘penny’ (Mt 18:23-35, Lk 12:54-59)… After punishment, those who went through torture in hell come to realise they need faith on God to succeed in life and they are joined into God’s kingdom so that they cease from sinning and are rewarded for their compliance…
There are two bible translations which consistently uphold the doctrine of Universal Reconciliation with God, and the future union of all beings to experience God as the all in each of us. For a free download of these bibles you can try this website:
An outline of the bible references which support Christian Universalism has been posted at this webpage: